over 95% of these caucus members come from districts that romney carried. most come with over 55% of the vote nape ear not threatened, but they feel that a bad deal is worse than no deal. >> so that means that they are deciding for political reasons about -- >> no. i think they have philosophical reasons that feel that putting taxes on small businesses at this point is bad for the country and bad for the economy. nobody wants to go over the cliff. the problem is the leaders haven't been able to craft something the other side will accept to avert it. >> so this group, you suggest they think going over the fiscal cliff is a better solution out there? >> well, i think the president's made that calculation, too, that a bad deal, because they haven't been able to come up and compromise enough to do it. both sides still have to move substantially. i don't think anybody purposely wants to go off, martin, but you're not going to take a bad deal. i think from the republican perspective without the accompanying spending cuts this was just not going to fly. >> tom is